Meet Jason Rowntree, the "city boy from Houston raised by a dentist" who became a world-class cattle expert and groundbreaking research innovator. In this episode of The Peter Byck Show, Peter Byck dives deep with Jason, one of the key scientists from the Roots So Deep science team, on the science, economics, and nuance of regenerative grazing.

Jason moves beyond a polarizing "grain versus grass" debate, emphasizing that great grass-finished beef marbling comes down to energy and management. As a serious scientist, Jason focuses on the nuance of the research behind Roots So Deep, and shares some of the very real challenges studying nature can pose. His massive new project tracks ecological function (carbon, water, and greenhouse gases) across a spectrum of 30 intensive sites across the US to better inform supply chains and ranchers. Like Peter, he believes solid data is key to driving real change.

We hope you enjoy this wide ranging conversation that covers everything from nutrient density to water sequestration to fly fishing in the latest episode of The Peter Byck Show!

"When you stand on healthy soil, there's a universe beneath your feet."